It only gets worse for the Spears family!
I cannot even believe this. You think it has something to do with the parenting if BOTH girls are screwed up?
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Maybe it has to do with a big sister setting a bad example? Still, pretty sad...
I saw this last night online and couldn't believe it!
It's to the point where I really just feel sorry for all of them.
I feel sorry for the kids. I wonder if this one will have yellow teeth and be slouched over in the car seat or used as an air bag by its mother so on and so forth...
Personally I wouldn't call getting pregnant being screwed up, even if she is 16.
Hmm... Looks like we have a little controversy? I honestly have to say that at least she's handling it all responsibly, especially for being 16. But the fact that she is 16 and got pregnant is really irresponsible, which is why I think she screwed up. And with a sister like hers, you'd think she'd be a lot more careful...
amen sistah missy!
and she is a teen TV star, so she is in the spotlight too, makes it more of a big deal, so many little girls are going to be seein ghtis and asking questions, makes me sad more than anything!
In the original post Missy never said that the state of being pregnant was screwed up. She said that the girls are screwed up. I would agree that being pregnant is not screwed up. But getting pregnant at 16 is screwed up, no matter how you look at it.
eh i don't think so. call me liberal. :)
hmmm...*bites tongue*
Here's my thing... The media and everyone bashes her for being pregnant, parents "everywhere are outraged." But... um... with some exceptions, obviously, a very large percentage of teenagers are having sex, and lots of their parents know it, and either condone or are just lazy. And the media and the entertainment world have created this atmosphere and image for girls that young. I've been horrified to see kids watching a 12 year old girl gyrate her hips and sing about "wanting," and how are they NOT supposed to end up sexually active and pregnant at 16 if they don't have a moral compass? I think what's "screwed up" is not merely the fact that she's pregnant, because it happens. What's screwed up is the parenting (or lack thereof), atmosphere, media, etc. that all contributed to the conclusion. I don't know if that's "liberal" or not, but the only reason she's getting such a bad rap is because her sister is the truly screwed up Britney Spears. And I'm not saying teen pregnancy is okay...Okay, too long, sorry.
And, oh, yes, on a separate level of having the last name Spears, that she is on a show for kids and is supposed to be a role model. That is NOT good.
It's bad parenting. Plain and simple, and that's why Brittney is such a bad mother, because hers was not so great. She didn't have much to go off of, and now her sister is pregnant, so the possibility of her being a good mother is even worse! Sigh...why do stupid people get to have babies and when some people who are responsible and mature can't!
I think one ironic thing is that Lynn Spears was writing a book about parenting kids in the spotlight, which has indefinitely been put on hold. Duh. Thanks for getting our discussion brewing, Kari! It's always good fun. ;)
I agree about bad parenting (especially when it's both of her children -- does she have more?), and I also found it VERY interesting that there was a book in the works, and now it's on hold. *laughs*
I don't remember looking at a celebrity as a role model when I was little. I looked at real people that I knew in real life. I think girls should start doing that.
And you're welcome, Missy, for starting this. :)
P.S. I agree with Kelli.
Yes some teens get pregnant at 16 that still doesn't make me think that its any less screwed up. She made the decision to have sex before she was married her mother did not make that decision for her, but her mother did allow her to move in with her 18 y/o boyfriend and that is even more screwed up than the fact that she's pregnant. The fact is still that she's 16 and pregnant... Screwed up! Call me Mormon.
But, see, that's kind of my point. If it were my kids or your kids, then, yes, because we are teaching them better, we would feel it was pretty screwed up. But teenagers now that aren't raised like that are taught that sex is okay, as long as they use protection. And, yes, that IS screwed up, but in their universe, it's accepted and normal, so in her yes, what did she do wrong? (I'm not saying that, but that's how she'd see it.) And OH MY GOSH DEFINITELY screwed up for her to be living with the guy.
Kelli I understand your point, I mean I remember being taught protection not abstinence. So for some one that has pushed the light of Christ (that we are ALL born with) so far out of their lives, they may not be able to make prudent choices.
just a question? aren't babies out of wedlock (old fashioned term i know) looked down upon in any religion? but i do have to say one thing, the girl has tried to be mature about it. SHe knows it was a wrong choice and seems to be taking at least mature steps in a solution. maybe.
While debate is fun, I can't even get started on the whole "babies out of wedlock looked down on" thing. That's when my blood turns to flaming acid. :)
I think it's been awhile since I heard the term wedlock...
Most people that I know that aren't Mormon but attend another church don't have any issue with pre-marital sex. They just assume that it's something that teenagers are going to do. Now that being said, I think that teenagers that have sex and get pregnant are probably looked down on, but only because they got pregnant not because they were having sex. And I don't think that children who were born to unwed parents have much or any of stigma on them anymore. Most people are smart enough to realize it's not the childs fault.
I know this is getting long, but I have to make one more point. I have a really hard time blaming a parent for something that their teenager or adult child does. There are plenty of good parents that have messed up kids and there are plenty of messed up parents that have good kids. I would hate for someone to judge me by the way that my kids turn out.
oh, i just wanted to make clear, i am not pointing fingers at teens who have kids when not married, stuff happens, my sister was young when she had my niece and not married to her dad and all the better for it! I was saying that I don't think it is neccesarily a "mormon" thing to think this whole situation is sad. I think that is what it boils down too, just a sad situation. And no, it isnt fair to pin all the blame on the mom, sometimes you just can't control your kids, no matter hwo much you want too! :) hugs and smiles all around!
Shannon, I agree, this is just a very sad situation.
Wow, you guys are all so passionate about this! Frankly I don't blame you. I think to sum it up, that miss Jamie-Lynn sort of represents a change in our culture and a change in the way people are thinking. I think the most important thing we can take from that is to realize how important it is for us to bring our kids up in homes that teach good morals and that set good examples for the way they should be living. Bad things will always happen, kids will never be perfect, but as long as we are doing what we need to we will make it through any situation. And gosh darn it, our kids might just turn out to be really great people. I know that's all I can really hope and pray for.
well said :)